Start / Stop - Can you sleep in the car? - Volvo C30 Forums and Community

whelmed · 02-18-2010, 07:07 AM

So I'm planning a road trip, and I was wondering if it came down to it - could I sleep in the car? I.e. would that start/stop mechanism keep going all night long and keeping inhabitants warm and cozy with the least amount of fuel possible?

Damiens-C30 · 02-18-2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by whelmed

So I'm planning a road trip, and I was wondering if it came down to it - could I sleep in the car? I.e. would that start/stop mechanism keep going all night long and keeping inhabitants warm and cozy with the least amount of fuel possible?

Erm, start/stop is only in action, when you drive. When you sleep, you aren't driving, so by law (at least here and I would assume in GB too) you aren't allowed to leave the engine running or the keys in the ignition...

whelmed · 02-18-2010, 07:36 AM

How about in France (where I'm road-tripping too)

raoulduke · 02-18-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Damiens-C30

by law (at least here and I would assume in GB too) you aren't allowed to leave the engine running or the keys in the ignition...

For real? I'm not aware of such a law in the States? Sounds a little 'Big Brother' if that is the case - I mean I understand if you do have such laws in Europe it's to minimize excess vehicle emissions and inefficient use of fuel, but who is the gov't to say? I'm certain there's gotta be an exception for 'emergency' uses (for example, if you were stranded in a snow storm in your car I'd think there'd be no limit to how long you can choose to run the engine while parked).

But all that aside, I wouldn't want to sleep in the C30 - even if you put the front seats as far back and as flat as possible, that's inevitably gonna be a very uncomfortable night's sleep!

Sack out at a $20 hostile for the night?

Damiens-C30 · 02-18-2010, 12:43 PM

To do with the car being stolen... Keys left in the ignition will cause the insurance to find a reason not to pay for a stolen car. The police (at least here) will give you a fault at the possibility of the car being stolen... Oh, and here (in Germany!) you aren't allowed to sleep behind the steering wheel, if the keys are in the ignition! They must be removed...

I can only speak for here, but German laws base on EU-laws so it means that they would be "alike" in other EU-nations... By law you aren't allowed to let the engine run warm in stand...!

Damiens-C30 · 02-18-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by whelmed

How about in France (where I'm road-tripping too)

Problem is, might be classed as "Wild camping" which is rather forbidden in mainland Europe...

bcbr01 · 02-18-2010, 12:48 PM

You want to keep warm in the car overnight with the engine running? The Start/Stop will not work as you are not operating the clutch/brake/gears. The engine would be running all the time in that case. Did I understand your question correctly?

whelmed · 02-18-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bcbr01

You want to keep warm in the car overnight with the engine running? The Start/Stop will not work as you are not operating the clutch/brake/gears. The engine would be running all the time in that case. Did I understand your question correctly?

Well with the clutch out the engine will turn off - the sensors in the car will then turn the engine back on when the car either a) starts getting low on electricity, or b) the heat of the engine block gets too cold. I suppose what I'm wondering is after the car turns back on, will it turn off again once those two criteria are reached and then begin to repeat the cycle?

As for 'mainland camping'... Boo! Damn Europe! I'm used to Canada where you are allowed to camp on crown land up to 5 weeks a year b4 problems happen.

bcbr01 · 02-18-2010, 02:03 PM

In that case how about turning Start/Stop off with the Drive button near the 12v socket?

The Dude · 02-18-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whelmed

So I'm planning a road trip, and I was wondering if it came down to it - could I sleep in the car? I.e. would that start/stop mechanism keep going all night long and keeping inhabitants warm and cozy with the least amount of fuel possible?

This is the dumbest question yet today.

Get a B&B or a tent.

heysa · 02-18-2010, 02:43 PM

[quote=raoulduke;149052]I'm certain there's gotta be an exception for 'emergency' uses (for example, if you were stranded in a snow storm in your car I'd think there'd be no limit to how long you can choose to run the engine while parked). QUOTE]

Sorry.. slightly off topic but running your engine while stranded in a snow storm = death without very close attention!! So many people die every year in this exact scenario... they get stranded and leave the engine running to keep warm. The tail pipe gets blocked/restricted and carbon monoxide seeps in to the cabin and people pass out and die...

For so many reasons you should NEVER sleep with the engine running!

Damiens-C30 · 02-18-2010, 02:55 PM

[quote=heysa;149088]

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Originally Posted by raoulduke

I'm certain there's gotta be an exception for 'emergency' uses (for example, if you were stranded in a snow storm in your car I'd think there'd be no limit to how long you can choose to run the engine while parked). QUOTE]

Sorry.. slightly off topic but running your engine while stranded in a snow storm = death without very close attention!! So many people die every year in this exact scenario... they get stranded and leave the engine running to keep warm. The tail pipe gets blocked/restricted and carbon monoxide seeps in to the cabin and people pass out and die...

For so many reasons you should NEVER sleep with the engine running!

Erm... You know that all modern cars have a cat to convert CO into CO2... Carbonmonoxide is therefore more or less a past thing (cars without cats get that problem)... Of course, a few particles of CO can sneak past the cat, but that is more or less "nothing".

ChrisC · 02-18-2010, 03:39 PM

[quote=heysa;149088]

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Originally Posted by raoulduke

I'm certain there's gotta be an exception for 'emergency' uses (for example, if you were stranded in a snow storm in your car I'd think there'd be no limit to how long you can choose to run the engine while parked). QUOTE]

Sorry.. slightly off topic but running your engine while stranded in a snow storm = death without very close attention!! So many people die every year in this exact scenario... they get stranded and leave the engine running to keep warm. The tail pipe gets blocked/restricted and carbon monoxide seeps in to the cabin and people pass out and die...

For so many reasons you should NEVER sleep with the engine running!

Seconded!

Get a sleeping bag or a tent!

raoulduke · 02-18-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by heysa

So many people die every year in this exact scenario... they get stranded and leave the engine running to keep warm. The tail pipe gets blocked/restricted and carbon monoxide seeps in to the cabin and people pass out and die...

Yeah I'm with Damien I don't see this as a very plausible concern to warrant freezing to death with the engine off, however, a very realistic concern I forgot to mention that I have heard of is people running the engine when they're stranded in a remote location in the snow, and then they run through all the gas and the car is immobile, and they then try and hoof it out of there and end up freezing to death when subjected to the elements. Definitely a good idea to have a bomber sleeping bag in the car just in case, and try and run the engine and heater as little as possible I s'pose so you can at least drive out of there when the weather eventually clears, but when it's freezing it's freezing, and if you have to run the engine to keep warm you just have to.

AustinSedz · 02-18-2010, 11:43 PM

well if you do what i did in my old car, you pack a 12v socket air pump, a small air-mattress and blankets. you fold the rear seats flat, set up the mattress and then bundle up in blankets. You really don't need to run the engine.. or you could just use a hotel ;)

02-18-2010, 07:07 AM	#1
whelmed Love the FL, you will! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 352	Start / Stop - Can you sleep in the car? So I'm planning a road trip, and I was wondering if it came down to it - could I sleep in the car? I.e. would that start/stop mechanism keep going all night long and keeping inhabitants warm and cozy with the least amount of fuel possible? __________________ BSM 2010.5 C30 SE LUX 1.6d DRIVe S/S (longest car model description ever): Active bending dual xenon lights, high perf sound, power & heated leather seats, folding mirrors and bluetooth.

02-18-2010, 07:36 AM	#3
whelmed Love the FL, you will! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 352	How about in France (where I'm road-tripping too) __________________ BSM 2010.5 C30 SE LUX 1.6d DRIVe S/S (longest car model description ever): Active bending dual xenon lights, high perf sound, power & heated leather seats, folding mirrors and bluetooth.

02-18-2010, 12:43 PM	#5
Damiens-C30 The Dramaqueen! Join Date: May 2008 Location: bla Posts: 4,810	To do with the car being stolen... Keys left in the ignition will cause the insurance to find a reason not to pay for a stolen car. The police (at least here) will give you a fault at the possibility of the car being stolen... Oh, and here (in Germany!) you aren't allowed to sleep behind the steering wheel, if the keys are in the ignition! They must be removed... I can only speak for here, but German laws base on EU-laws so it means that they would be "alike" in other EU-nations... By law you aren't allowed to let the engine run warm in stand...! __________________ Most people drive a car... I drive a C30!

02-18-2010, 11:43 PM	#15
AustinSedz Addicted to Blue :D Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Burlington Ontario Posts: 1,215	well if you do what i did in my old car, you pack a 12v socket air pump, a small air-mattress and blankets. you fold the rear seats flat, set up the mattress and then bundle up in blankets. You really don't need to run the engine.. or you could just use a hotel ;) __________________ 2009 C30 2.4iCosmic white, black/white t-tech, 17% tint, Painted front grille, white interior LEDs, Magnaflow Tip, debaged rear, R design wheel/pedals, V.1 bumper reflectors, DDM 8000k 55w HID heads, DDM 3000k 35w HID fogs, DIY front lip, Goals: lowered on coils, 18"x8" et38 rims, stretched toyo proxis, rear spacers, ipd swaybar, EST brace, Borla Cat back, R-design bodykit, colour matched center console and trim, custom plates, More interior Leds, Custom Sub inclosure, dyed roof liner.

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02-18-2010, 12:48 PM	#7
bcbr01 C3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 21	You want to keep warm in the car overnight with the engine running? The Start/Stop will not work as you are not operating the clutch/brake/gears. The engine would be running all the time in that case. Did I understand your question correctly?

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bcbr01 C3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 21	In that case how about turning Start/Stop off with the Drive button near the 12v socket?

02-18-2010, 02:43 PM	#11
heysa Ash Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: RI - "The Bucket" Posts: 1,221	[quote=raoulduke;149052]I'm certain there's gotta be an exception for 'emergency' uses (for example, if you were stranded in a snow storm in your car I'd think there'd be no limit to how long you can choose to run the engine while parked). QUOTE] Sorry.. slightly off topic but running your engine while stranded in a snow storm = death without very close attention!! So many people die every year in this exact scenario... they get stranded and leave the engine running to keep warm. The tail pipe gets blocked/restricted and carbon monoxide seeps in to the cabin and people pass out and die... For so many reasons you should NEVER sleep with the engine running!